In this second interview, Shane L. Windmeyer, a member of the Iowa Tribe of Kansas and Nebraska, founder and executive director of Campus Pride (a leading national nonprofit organization for student leaders and campus groups working to create a safer college environment for LGBTQ students), and author and editor of numerous LGBTQ college related books, discusses his internship opportunities in healthcare related fields as a student, the devastating implications of the COVID 19 pandemic, and the impact that the AIDS epidemic had on shaping his life as a young person. [All times are approximate]. [00:00] Introductions [01:00] Discusses his internship opportunity as a student at Emporia State University with the National Academy of Social Insurance; spending time in Washington DC where the internship was located and his particular project with the Alzheimer's Association where he designed materials for young caregivers whose family members had Alzheimer disease; finding common ground as a young gay man with care givers of Alzheimer sufferers who felt shame and isolation. [05:20] Meeting Judy Riggs of the Alzheimer's Association and Hillary Clinton and the impact these women had on him as role models for public service and public speaking; realizing that he was more fulfilled with work that was educational and grass roots rather than political lobbying; learning about LGBTQ issues and groups and volunteering for PFLAG, the Human Rights Campaign Foundation, Whitman Walker AIDS clinic, the Lesbian Taskforce, the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund (where he met Kathleen DeBold, author of Out For Office: Campaigning in the Gay Nineties); first experience of a gay bookstore, Lambda Rising in Washington DC. [16:00] Talks about the outcome of his experience in Washington DC, including his decision to go to graduate school for Higher Education Administration, and his interest in the nascent LGBTQ resource centers which were beginning to emerge on some campuses starting with the University of Michigan and becoming more popular at other campuses. [19:00] Participating in the Health Security Express caravan that traveled from Missouri to Washington DC and representing the Alzheimer's Association with Alzheimer's caregivers; security concerns as people picketed the caravan. [23:00] Talks about the impact of his father's premature death in 2003 and his mother's recent death resulting from COVID-19; describes the tragic impact of COVID-19 and the chasm of understanding between those who have suffered and those who have not. [33:46] Describes the influence of the HIV-AIDS epidemic on his life as a college student, his work to educate others about the disease, the way in which HIV-AIDS was another closet for gay people to maneuver around, his experience of ACT UP while he was in Washington DC, the impact that the memorial quilt had on him when it was on display on the National Mall, and the importance of being a survivor and using your voice as an advocate for beneficial change. [44:16] Concluding remarks about the rejuvenating impact of his internship, returning with purpose to Emporia State, and looking forward to the next chapter in his life which includes his partner Thomas Feldman.