In this second of two interviews David Sanders, who earned both his B.A. in Psychology and his M. Ed. from UNC Charlotte during the early 1970s, describes his academic path, his college friendships, the impact that the Wilmington 10 trial had on him, and his career with the City of Charlotte. [All times are approximate]. Introductions [00.42]. Experiences in high school with integration, including integrating the school band and protesting the playing of "Dixie" [07:40]. Lack of supportive counseling in high school for Black students to encourage college attendance [17:40]. Working as a hospital orderly prior to college and realizing he wanted to be a counselor rather than a doctor [19:53]. Mentors in Psychology at UNC Charlotte and other notable professors [24:02]. Decision to attend graduate school and the necessity to turn down the opportunity to attend UW Madison when his grandmother died [30:25]. Working in Human Resources for the Union Carbide Corporation, the lack of diversity in their management, and taking a position with the City of Charlotte [32:20]. Reflections on fellow student and friend Alice Achebe who attended the Nursing program as an international student from Biafra and who was highly critical of her student experience as a Black woman [36:15 and 49:06]. Close circle of friends in college, social gatherings, and the distinction between students who lived on campus and students who lived off campus [38:44 and 54:09]. Mr. Sanders' own personality and ability to get along with others and how this masked his experiences of discrimination [41:26]. Reflections on Vice Chancellor Bonnie Cone [45:07]. Attending Pritchard Memorial Baptist Church with a small group of Black students until such a time that there was transportation to Black churches [51:36]. Spending time in Charlotte, at the Student Union and the library, and campaigning for Shirley Chisholm [57:50]. His outlook as a student on the Vietnam War draft [01:00:27]. The Wilmington 10 trial, travelling to Wilmington to observe the trial, protesting under the supervision of Joseph Lowery, and feelings of frustration and anger in the courtroom [01:02:28, 01:08:20 and 01:15:57]. Memories of T.J. Reddy and writing letters to him in jail [01:06:48 and 01:10:48]. Memories of Ben Chavis [01:11:31]. Outlook on taking down Confederate monuments [01:20:12]. Reflections on working in Human Relations with the City of Charlotte [01:31:37]. Message to current students [01:39:58].